Talk:Chibi-Robo (Super Smash Flash 2)

Not neccessarily Chibi specific, but it fits in here. Considering that the new tier list has one additional character with the introduction of Sheilda, should we add that in some way in the "tier list placement history" section? Chibi has essentially kept his same placement (even though we went from 25th to 26th) with the exception of going into bottom tier again. Technically it was just a character added above him, but he wasnt considered to be actually worse than on the second tier list. SkaiPrower (talk) 11:11, February 8, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think there was no need to start this talk page, you were actually cautious to notice this oddity so, I guess, you are right, Chibi-Robo didn't drop nor rise, the page should make note of that.


 * Add a header next time, please.
 * --Ak-Un Symbol.PNG BYLL  EL  WYLL  Ak-Un Symbol.PNG 03:37, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

thats the wrong number!
Whoever added the frame data to this page needs to doublecheck his numbers for the smash attacks (and possibly other moves as well).

According to Chibis page, his FSmash has 13 frames of startup, hitboxes on frames 14-23 and endlag during frames 24,25 (FAF being 26 then) - this feels wrong from my experience with the character. According to Starkillers Frame Data project, the startup would be Frames 1,7, active hitboxes on frames 8-17, and endlag being frames 19-25 (FAF 26 again), which feels much more reasonable.

The same deal with USmash: The wiki says there are 12 frames of startup, hitboxes being frames 13-21 and endlag at two frames again from frames 22-23 (FAF 24) - This is definetly wrong unless Im in 100% retard mode rn. As for comparism: Starkiller says that the startup is Frames 1-4, hitboxes would be frames 5-13, and the endlag is frames 14-23 (FAF 24 yet again), which feels more accurate again.

The DSmash data on the wiki is 100% guaranteed wrong though. Startup Frames 1-19, hitboxes frames 20-25, and FAF being frame 24 - one frame before the move actually is over. Using SK as a reference once more, startup would be frames 1-12, hitboxes on frames 13-18 (sour/sweetspot being added to each other here), and the endlag would be Frames 19-24, which actually makes sense math wise.

Im not going to make any changes because I honestly cannot 100% safely tell which numbers are correct (even though I am heavily leaning towards SKs data), so any clarification on this would be useful.

SkaiPrower (talk) 14:06, February 9, 2017 (UTC)