Talk:Costume

Palette swap vs. Costumes
So, if I recall correctly, McLeodGaming hasn't referred to these as "palette swaps" since the dojo days. Based on this video (in fact, based on a dev blog from 2016), it looks like the official name for these is "costumes", so is it time to ditch the outdated dojo's naming convention?

--CrazyNaut (talk) 18:44, July 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * SmashWiki already had this issue as well and just calls them "Alternate costumes". So if the term has become deprecated, then, we should ditch it. But just calling it "Costumes" feels empty, should it be "Recolored costumes" or go directly with "Alternate costumes"? --Ak-Un.PNG BYLL  EL  WYLL  Ak-Un.PNG 19:18, July 20, 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see how costumes is an "empty name", they're not officially referred to as alternate costumes and it's not like there's anything else on the wiki that it can be confused for. And that's what it was called in both the blog and the vlog, so if it's the correct name then it's the correct name.
 * "Recolored costumes" is a weird name to give it, I'd like to assume the only reason they called it that is because this is an update to the previous costumes.


 * --CrazyNaut (talk) 19:42, July 20, 2019 (UTC)


 * If that's the matter, then I'll go ahead and move the page's name, even if it seems simple. --Ak-Un.PNG BYLL  EL  WYLL  Ak-Un.PNG 21:58, July 20, 2019 (UTC)

Splitting
This is pretty much a part 2 of the above conversation, but...
 * 1) Support: Palette swaps and costumes actually refer to completely different things. Palette swaps apply a filter to the whole sprite, while costumes manually changes colors of a set part of the sprite. A page about both features would be way too long, so I'd say it's a good idea to have one page for costumes and another one for palette swaps. Maybe even a third one for early(ier) palette swaps.
 * 2) Oppose: First of all, the terms being "completely different" makes no sense when "costume" can still describe any palette swap; in fact, Beta Dev Blog #6 uses the term to describe the exact same thing as palette swaps, and the vlog uses "filtered costumes" to describe them. In fact, I don't recall "palette swaps" ever being used outside of one or two outdated dojo updates. Second, with filtered costumes being gradually phased out I don't see enough reason to give it separate attention, especially when that would annoyingly separate alternate costumes across multiple pages. I don't even see removed palette swaps as deserving of an entire page. --CrazyNaut (talk) 19:06, July 21, 2019 (UTC)

Potential sub-page
I wanted to bring up the idea of separating this page into two pages, with one listing all the SSF2 costumes and their references and whatnot and the main page covering costumes themselves. The page is just getting so big; the size of the "List of costumes" section is overpowering everything else on the page, and it's just gonna get bigger as more characters come. Worse, Fraymakers is set to be shown off soon, and if that contains costumes as well then it'll be sharing real estate with SSF2. I think we should put some thought into "List of costumes in Super Smash Flash 2" or "Costume/In Super Smash Flash 2" being a thing. CrazyNaut (talk) 19:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Split proposal

 * 1) Support: On further thought I think having a second page for "List of costumes in Super Smash Flash 2" is the better option of the two. Maybe a third page for Fraymakers as well but we'll get there when we get there. CrazyNaut (talk) 05:04, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 2) Support: CrazyNaut made some solid points; the SSF2 section is indeed absurdly large. Gregory  SSF2_Zero_Suit_Samus_head.pngSSF2_Luffy_head.png Naruto   16:55, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 3) Support: I think making separate pages for the costumes in SSF2, YJF, and Fraymakers is a great idea, since the latter game was just announced to also have them. ToXiic313 (talk) 00:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * 4) Support: This is practically a fact now that costumes were confirmed for Fraymakers (I was holding up my vote until we got an actual confirmation). I don't think we should go with a sub-page, the full "List of costumes in [x]" title is the best choice. --Ak-Un.PNG BYLL  EL  WYLL  Ak-Un.PNG 19:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)